Weekly Buyer's Guide: Cutting Edge System - March 2004
by Evan Lieb on March 3, 2004 12:57 PM EST- Posted in
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Video
Recommendation: 256MB PowerColor Radeon 9800XT (412MHz), DVI, TV-outPrice: $415 shipped
As we mentioned in a previous guide, ATI has had a firm grasp on the add-in desktop video market for quite some time now. While ATI's lead is quite noticeable at the low end and fairly noticeable with the mid-range sector, their lead in cutting edge isn't quite as drastic. It's still there, as even AnandTech has concluded that the 9800XT is more or less the fastest desktop gaming GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) currently available. Still, NVIDIA's 5950 Ultra closely trails the 9800XT (more on the 5950 in a moment) enough in current games in terms of speed and IQ (image quality) that it's pretty clear the 9800XT is the superior cutting edge product. That's why we recommend it today, with the manufacturer, PowerColor, yet again. With this card, you get DVI (if you have an LCD), TV-out, and 256MB of memory. The 256MB of memory will come in very handy with future DX9 titles, though not for quite some time. Overall, you're getting an incredible gaming card here. However, if you're curious about how to save a little cash without sacrificing much performance, we suggest that you check out a 128MB 9800 Pro (from any manufacturer you choose) for about $215 shipped. It contains half the memory (128MB instead of 256MB), which may hurt performance a little, but won't be at all noticeable in current games, and is only on average about 5%-10% slower in current games.
Runner-up: 256MB Leadtek GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, DVI/VIVO
Price: $390
The GeForce FX 5950 isn't quite as fast as ATI's 9800XT video cards nor is the IQ as good in current games, but where NVIDIA has done a good job is pricing. On average, 9800XT cards are $40 more than their GeForce FX 5950 competition. For a slight performance edge, that's not a small amount of cash. True, this isn't a video card for a budget system, this is for a cutting edge system, and so $40 may be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Still, it's something to ponder if you have a certain dollar amount you don't want to exceed with this system. Anyway, Leadtek manufacturers the particular GeForce FX 5950 that we're recommending here today. We like this model's cooling configuration/style, bundled software, Leadtek support, and features like VIVO and DVI.
We'd be remiss not to mention that several high-end video cards will be launched in a couple months that should end up being considerably faster than the Radeon 9800XT and GeForce FX 5950 Ultra. Therefore, if you do not have an urgent need to build your system, we suggest waiting for the release of these new high-end video cards. It's not the end of the world if you build your high-end system today with a 9800XT or 5950 Ultra, both cards offer tremendous performance in today's video games and most future games. However, just be aware that something will come along in a couple months that will be much faster for the same price or less, depending on exactly what models are launched.
Monitor
Recommendation: Samsung 1100DF 21" (20" viewable) DynaFlat CRTPrice: $420 shipped
Not only does Samsung make a great mid-range monitor with their 955DF series, they make a great high-end monitor with their 1100DF series too. The 1100DF is capable of refresh rates of 75Hz at 2048x1536 and 85Hz at 1280x1024 and has a dot pitch of 0.20mm. Text clarity is very impressive, glare is non-existent, and gaming performance is top-of-the-line.
Runner-up: Philips 22" (20" viewable) 202P45 CRT
Price: $497 shipped
The 202P45 may cost $80 more, but its performance is nothing short of outstanding. The 202P45 has features like a max resolution of 2048x1536 @ 80Hz (1600x1200 @ 85Hz) and a 0.25mm dot pitch aperture grille. The aperture grille is what makes this monitor particularly special. Going by its word for word definition, the aperture grille is a series of vertical wires stretched vertically down the inside of a CRT to mask the beams from the electron guns at the back of the tube. What the 202P45's flat aperture grille essentially does is help to minimize the geometric distortion that users will see on increasingly larger screens, like this 22" monitor. With this feature, the 202P45 is basically able to display a more precise and accurate picture with sharp overall text clarity compared to monitors without flat aperture grille technology. Because of this feature, the 202P45 is truly one of the best 22" monitors on the market that doesn't force you to take out a second mortgage on the house.
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Modal - Friday, March 5, 2004 - link
I'm a little bit confused as to why you recommended the Asus K8V Deluxe for the Athlon 64. From what I can tell, its a great board but, you guys (AT) gave the AOpen AK86-L a glowing review a couple of weeks ago, so I'm wondering why the Asus board was picked over this one.Evan Lieb - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
Tulklas,I would recommend the Phillips. :)
Tulklas - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
Mr Lieb,I am in the market for a higher end monitor and am very interested in your reply to Bricksters question:
"I wanted to refer specifically to your monitor selections, and wanted to incur why you chose the Samsung 1100DF over the Philips 202P45?
Price being equal, which monitor would you recommend?"
Thanks
Evan Lieb - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
Brickster,I got your email and replied, thanks. :)
Brickster - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
Brickster - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
Mr. Lieb,I wanted to refer specifically to your monitor selections, and wanted to incur why you chose the Samsung 1100DF over the Philips 202P45?
Price being equal, which monitor would you recommend?
Just a but confused as you seem to tout the aperture grille a bit more in your runner up.
Thanks for your help!
Brick
yc6489 - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
joey2264, I also happen to run a page on computer configurations for 4 different budgets. My mid-range system is around $1500. Take a look: http://people.bu.edu/yc6489/osc/index.htmEvan Lieb - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
That's IC7-G MAXII Advance, not MAX AdvanceII. :)Evan Lieb - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
mostlyprudent,1) Not really available and not worth the extra cost.
2) Yes, they are, my mistake for saying they weren’t in my previous post. Price difference makes it illogical to pay double the price though assuming you don’t need more than 30GB+ of space. If you do, like I said in the guide, there’s nothing wrong with going with the slightly faster 74GB Raptor
3) Yup, I mentioned that as an option for users who needed additional storage. A big secondary ATA drive is not a bad idea by any means if you need space.
4) No problem. $7,000 is just insane. :)
VagrantZero,
Thanks for pointing that out, I must have had a brain fart regarding the speed difference in the 36 and 74 Raptors. Duh.
yc6489,
We recommended the z640s in our mid range guide here: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=197...
Pumpkinierre,
It’s a tough choice either way, but ABIT comes out on top for slightly better features for the same price, not to mention great reliability. The new P4C800-E’s are tough to beat, but the IC7-G Max Advance II is by no means a slouch. In the end it’ll come down to personal taste. And those memory issues are long gone, that was only with early BIOS revisions.
Cygni,
It’s not, unless you overclock, that’s why we stated so in our memory section (with regards to the OCZ GOLD modules).
joey2264,
We could do that for a system between budget and mid range, but that would probably be pretty redundant. The best way to shave off a few hundred bucks is by opting for a 9800 Pro instead of a 9800XT, a 955DF instead of the 1100DF, and a 3000+ instead of a 3400+ A64. There are other ways too. :)
buleyb,
Price and performance.
agent2099,
It’s definitely practical, it just might not be as fast. There’s a point you get to where you have to ask yourself if there’s any point in spending another $200 for barely noticeable speed increase.
prazv,
Yes, all prices are listed in USD.
prazv - Thursday, March 4, 2004 - link
out of curiosity are the prices listed in american funds ?