The Mac mini as a Media Computer
by Anand Lal Shimpi on February 16, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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What we've touched on in this article is far from the full gamut of HTPC applications for the mini (or Macs in general). Elgato, for example, offers a series of internal and external TV tuners for Macs, including a Mac version of ATI's TV Wonder USB 2.0. You can get a remote for the Mac and there are tons of freely-available, user-designed AppleScripts that are great for browsing your DVD collection. There are even multiple open source projects underway to bring about a Mac media center type of application.In the past, Apple hasn't seen a place for a Mac in the living room. Many have theorized that the mini is Apple's way of bringing online movie and music downloads into the living room, but there's a lot that has to happen before Apple can get to that point. As it stands right now, Apple needs to make significant improvements to their DVD player, whose image quality simply isn't up to par. The other issue is that DVD decode performance on the mini is simply unacceptable for any sort of multitasking environments. While Mac OS X does a great job of making sure that other, inactive windows don't take priority over the DVD decoding threads, as soon as you switch window focus, the DVD player no longer enjoys its priority and playback can suffer.
The mini obviously doesn't have the built-in storage capabilities to act as a media server, but with an external FireWire drive, those problems could easily be solved. In its ability to act as a DVR, the mini has some potential, assuming that either Apple or some other adventurous developer puts the time into exploiting those capabilities. But obviously, what's lacking is the media-centric interface (or 10-foot UI) of something like Media Center Edition. If Apple is truly going after this market next, it's an area on which they must focus.
We were quite impressed with the mini's ability to function as a content creation box with its performance in iMovie HD. The box is far more responsive than most entry-level machines that we've played with in the past, thanks in part to the excellent thread management and caching systems of the OS.
Through our continued use of the mini, we still find it an excellent way to get introduced to OS X; although, we are still frustrated by its performance at higher resolutions, thanks to its meager 32MB of video memory. We've heard from many PC users that while they are tempted by the mini, they will wait for what will essentially be version 2, hoping that it will have more video memory, and maybe even an updated graphics core. Given that the current mini makes use of the Radeon 9200, we'd expect its successor to use ATI's X300, which would bring it compatibility with Core Image and Quartz Extreme 2D. With the mini having just been launched, don't hold your breath for an updated version anytime soon, however.
Our recommendation still stands that, if you can, a PowerBook is a much better way to get introduced to and reap the benefits of OS X. But as a second choice, the mini still seems to work very well, even if not as a HTPC.
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Stokestack - Monday, July 21, 2008 - link
You picked one of the worst possible DVD sets to use for comparison. These discs are NOT from film. They are clearly crap-quality encodes from lame, interlaced VIDEOTAPE sources.You don't even have to freeze the images to see that.
p0wermac - Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - link
http://www.ammesset.com/downloads/firerecord/FireR...">http://www.ammesset.com/downloads/firerecord/FireR...download that and the newest FireWire SDK's from developer.apple.com
~p0wermac
Squidlet - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - link
After building my Media Center and showing it installed with all of it's Demoapplications. Most people I have show it to where blown away by this version 1.01 application.
GenieCommands is a unique programmable software application
that allows you to control all your applications and media via simple
menus, in a theatre or lounge room environment. The Media Center
is a computer like the Mac Mini combined with the Geniecommands software that
provides an all-in-one entertainment system for your entire family.
While attached to your television screen it allows you to enjoy your
favorite entertainment such as; watch DVDs, record TV or pause TV,
listen to music, share your digital photos, access the internet and more
We have provided a complete set of demo menus to get you started,
with links on where to download additional software. These menus
can then be edited to suit your lifestyle or create a new one.
GenieCommands provides a kiosk push button environment
where users can get easier access to the best of what the industry has
to offer in software. This is achieved through simple user defined
graphic menus, to access all the scripts and to control almost any
application.
www.Geniecommands.com
Squidlet - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - link
After buiding my Media Center and showing it installed with all of it's Demoappliactions. Most people I have shopw it to where blown away by this version 1.01 appliaction.
GenieCommands is a unique programmable software application
that allows you to control all your applications and media via simple
menus, in a theatre or lounge room environment. The Media Center
is a computer like the Mac Mini combined with the Geniecommands software that
provides an all-in-one entertainment system for your entire family.
While attached to your television screen it allows you to enjoy your
favorite entertainment such as; watch DVDs, record TV or pause TV,
listen to music, share your digital photos, access the internet and more
We have provided a complete set of demo menus to get you started,
with links on where to download additional software. These menus
can then be edited to suit your lifestyle or create a new one.
GenieCommands provides a kiosk push button environment
where users can get easier access to the best of what the industry has
to offer in software. This is achieved through simple user defined
graphic menus, to access all the scripts and to control almost any
application.
www.Geniecommands.com
MrCoyote - Friday, March 25, 2005 - link
INTERLACING...That's what you see in those DVD pictures. It's no specific problem to that box. It is occuring, because the software is not de-interlacing the video. It happens on PC's too. Hook the box up to a standard interlaced TV, and the "problem" will go away.fitten - Friday, February 18, 2005 - link
#11, the Mac was not the original all-in-one. There were *many* machines from the late 70s and early 80s that beat it. Commodore64, Apple ][c, Atari XE, heck, even the TRS80s.michael2k - Thursday, February 17, 2005 - link
"it's similar to how apple disable's the dual display screen spanning on a perfectly capable radeon 9200 to segment the iBooks from the Powerbooks. there's no good functional reason to not have this sort of stuff enabled."Well, I can think of two functional reasons not to have this stuff enabled:
1) No need to test this feature before distribution
2) No need to support this feature in the field
Those two aspects of manufacturing and tech support probably saves Apple some money :)
By extension, that also saves consumers some money too.
Childs - Thursday, February 17, 2005 - link
H.264 will probably be the next preferred codec for htpc on the Mac. I've been meaning to test it out on my Mini, but haven't had the time.triadone - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
a liked the review. i'm unclear as to whether a TV or monitor was used for the DVD playback. if a TV would resolve the interlacing issues it would be nice to know. most ppl interested in using it as a HTMac probably wouldn't want it hooked up to their monitor, but their TV for playback.it is good that Anand is pointing out the limitations of OS X's hardware handling of video. it's similar to how apple disable's the dual display screen spanning on a perfectly capable radeon 9200 to segment the iBooks from the Powerbooks. there's no good functional reason to not have this sort of stuff enabled. i hope that apple is ready to take on their effort to expand their marketshare with the mini. i.e.-a traditionally PC-oriented site like Anandtech starts covering Mac products and giving them some recognition as well as constructive feedback...let's hope they listen instead of just doing their own thing. they'll have to learn how to "think different" and integrate the feedback from reviewers to better their product. it will be interesting if apple will be as responsive to their product reviews in similar fashion to how video and motherboard vendors are. i.e.-poor review = swift delivery of new firmware or drivers. i hope that apple can do this as i feel it will have everything to do with bettering the already solid product that the mini is.
btw, USB 2.0 isn't a good option for Mac as of yet, unless u r a powermac user. specifically i'm referring to el gato's eyetv USB 2.0 product. it requires a baseline dual G4 system to handle the USB processor overhead along with on the fly video compression. not cool for my 1.2Ghz iBook. =(
like others i would have liked to see divx/mpeg-4 evaluations. i use mpeg-4 and divx streamed wirelessly from my 250GB PC drive to my ibook without issue. simply due to the HD limitation, one would think that the primary function of the HTMac would be to act as a front end for media stored on the network, or at least that's how i use my iBook around the house. :)
jsbhburg - Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - link
The combination of the new 10.3.8 OS update, the QuickTime MPEG2 Playback Component and the EyeTV 1.7 software has tested out great on an eMac G4 1.25 GHz with the same 9200 Radeon video card. No dropped frames on 720p and very little, if any, on 1080i.Try out EyeTV 1.7 from elgato. It is dramatically better than VLC.
Joe