Video Cards Price Guide: Demystifying December Edition
by Kristopher Kubicki on December 5, 2004 10:43 AM EST- Posted in
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Video Cards Radeon 9xxx
If there is one thing that some of our recent tests have proven, its that the 9800 Pro can still pull it's weight around here when put against the AGP crowd; particularly considering it hovers around that magic $200 number. Unfortunately, if you got a chance to see the GeForce 6600GT AGP review, the $200 Radeon 9800 Pro got trounced by the 6600GT in every benchmark (Anand put it nicely here). Even though you'll pay a little bit more for the 6600GT AGP, the enormous gains you see in games like Halo, CounterStrike and Doom3 are clearly worth the investment.
Our midrange AGP card pick this week is the 9600XT, without a doubt. Even though it is getting long in the tooth, the 9600XT is the most well rounded Radeon 9xxx around, and it's extremely cheap right now too. If you plan on playing a bit of Half Life 2, you might want to check out these numbers here
Video Cards Radeon Xxxx
With the launch earlier this week, Derek put the current state of things best in the conclusion of his X850 introduction article:
- - Radeon X850 XT and X850 XT PE are the extreme gamers cards. They lead in performance and if there's no budget, put this up there with the 6800 Ultra. Of course, ATI says we'll be able to find these on shelves in time to put them in gift boxes for the holiday season, which would tip the scales in ATI's favor, especially if 6800 Ultra cards are still going for extremely high prices and the new X850 XT and XT PE debut at MSRP.
- - Radeon X800 XL is an interesting price point. It hits a spot between the current X800 Pro and the 6800 GT. ATI really needs a $400 price point offering, but dropping something between 300 and 400 may help out consumers who don't have the budget for anything more.
- - Radeon X800 will take the place of the X700 XT and really negates the need for anything else at a $250 price point. This is a good answer to NVIDIA's 6800 non-ultra product, if they ever make it into the same platform space.
Unfortunately, the "if" clauses are going to plague us a bit right now. The X700XT GPU is definitely ATI's $240 gem right now as far as price/performance go right now, albeit availability is very weak. ATI's next available tier, the X800 Pro, sells for $400. It wasn't surprising that ATI put out five cards to fill in the leaking holes in the greater-than-$250 video card market. To us what is surprising is that all of those cards target the 1% of extreme enthusiasts take a no holds barred approach to computer shopping. Although everyone likes to have the newest and fastest, paying $400 for a video card only became vogue a year ago, and yet now the ceiling for video cards is well above $500. Since the price guides exist to help people buy smart instead of buying the extreme, we won't even consider the X800 cards an option this time around.
In fact, for those who follow some of our other reviews, things look fairly favorable for the X700XT on anything test that isn't Doom3, but it essentially ties the GeForce 6600GT in most benchmarks we have seen. Unfortunately, the lack of an fully available X700XT AGP component right now puts it at a disadvantage. As we mentioned earlier, X700XT looks great if you can find it, but on PCIe don't sell yourself short of a 6600GT.
The winner on ATI's hands is the X800 without a doubt. The problem is that there are no cards. Even though we were told to wait a few more days for availability to start showing up, the fact that most merchants don't even have pre-orders does not bode well. As we always say here at AnandTech, but the best hardware available today; constantly waiting for the next best thing will only force you to perpetually wait.
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Staples - Wednesday, December 8, 2004 - link
There is no midrange that we know in terms of mid range price now days. The midrange costs $250+ now days. Gone are the days where you could get mid range performance for $150.lsman - Wednesday, December 8, 2004 - link
read x800 will replace x700xt (stop production)Visual - Wednesday, December 8, 2004 - link
The thing about 6600GTs costing $50 "tommorow"... it can't happen. nVidia will always have the MX cards - the 6600GT will just not be sold "tommorow". Just the same as why you cant get a Radeon9600 for $50 now.Your comment that one should "run" to buy a 6600GT because ATI will release a competitor soon... just doesn't make sense, man! If the X800 actually "begin to edge out the 6600GT's advantage" then waiting will get you a better card, or a lower price :p Or I've misunderstood something...
I'd also like to see you consider the 6800LE cards in your guides... or aren't they available in USA? I know they're supposed to be OEM model only, but they're available in my country already.
stncttr908 - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
On the ATI page where it says Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB, the card linked is the Sapphire Atlantis, a 128-bit memory card. This could present quite a few problems to people who think they're finding a 256MB 9800 Pro w/a 256-bit bus on the cheap.kmmatney - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
I like the new setup. For me, it clears up the mid-range section of cards, somehwat. I'd like to see even cheaper cards, as well. I have no idea what the best card uis in the $90 - $120 price range - the NV 5700? Plain ATI 9600?.I find it amazing that I bought a GF4 Ti4200 way back for $120, and I still can't purchase much of an upgrade (if at all) for the same price!
bob661 - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
Has anyone OC'd the 6600GT? How high is it OCing?bob661 - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
I like the new setup. Plus, when were mainstream cards less than $200? During the TNT2 days?Grettir - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
The summary of prices is largely uninteresting. What we (collectively) need is a set of X/Y plots of price/performance so we can tell where the knees are in value for the dollar. With the corpus of data that Anandtech has worked so hard to accumulate, you could provide real value for your viewers by having the instantly updated chart as prices change.Questar - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
Kristopher,Yes there was a coupon involved, I think it was for 30% off.
wyrmrider - Monday, December 6, 2004 - link
my son got an nvidia 6800gt for around 200 + tak at comp usawhy no 6800 in roundup??
wyrmrider