Price Guides November 2003: Video Cards and Memory
by Kristopher Kubicki on November 23, 2003 11:59 PM EST- Posted in
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DRAM memory prices is slowly back on the downfall again. Analysts believe that the cost of the DRAM manufacturing is outpacing the speed of declines, which means we will see high markups on very cheap RAM. According to our industry sources, the amount of DDR DRAM memory sales decreased to as much as 22% last month. This is a dangerous trend for memory makers who are still keeping their heads up expecting to see profits arise in the long run. Our analsysts are in agreement, the DRAM market is in serious trouble. We already started to see companies like GeIL thin out, and it probably wont be the last one we see dip off the radar either.
Analyzing the memory market is like pulling teeth; it is just painful. PC2100 decreased another 5% or so while prices were supposedly on the increase, but now prices have corrected themselves back to their original values. Our guess is last months correction was simply delayed as sources dried up. Corsair took the most aggressive reproach to the price hikes and officially cut prices on all the PC2100 products.
Looking at PC2700 is a slightly different story. The PC2700 modules are stuck in the price hikes from last month and prices are generally increasing or staying flat. Since the PC2700 has mirrored what the PC2100 market does for the last 10-12 months, prices are probably leveling out to where they were a month or so ago. Expect PC2700 to climb or stay even for a few more weeks.
PC3200 gets a little more exciting. Prices on PC3200 have climbed a dollar or two here and there, but with the exception of the heavily regulated Crucial and Corsair modules, PC3200 modules are almost 20-30% off last months prices. Mushkin seems the hardest hit, dropping prices to under $90 on its slower timed 512MB lines.
Just to make my job a little more difficult, PC3500 did exactly the opposite PC3200 did. OCZ and GeIL, pretty much the only two companies still pursuing PC3500 (if you consider GeIL doing anything that is), both randomly hiked costs about $10 on all of their modules. OCZ has been extremely aggressive in all of its other pricings, the hike on PC3500 was somewhat unexpected.
Getting back to what is good to buy and what isn’t, PC3200 looks like the only real solution right now. You pay approximately a $10 premium over PC2700, but DDR400 is more forgiving and easier to overclock than the PC2700 solutions. And for those of you who have problematic i875P motherboards, check out Evan’s analysis of 875P and memory from a few months ago. Most companies have produced hardware and firmware fixes for their boards so the timing problems of yore have diminished slightly. Our recommendation this week goes to multiple Mushkin PC3200 512MB or Corsair 256MB sticks for i875/i865 boards (remember to take advantage of dual channel DDR). Since the performance of dual channel DDR isn’t as significant with nForce2, and VIA doesn’t even support dual channel technology, buying single PC3200/PC2700 sticks makes more sense from an AMD perspective. Mushkin’s PC3200 512MB sticks are again a good recommendation.
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DeadFish - Monday, December 1, 2003 - link
Just a note of course-correction. Just when the ATI 9600SE's came out I needed a vidcard, and couldn't wait for the XT version to get HalfLife2 with it. I ended up rationalizing the SE version at $135 I think, and it came with Half Life 2 and was cheaper than the 9600Pro version.When I took my new card out of the box it had
ATI 9600 Pro on the back of the card.
I felt it a fair bargain at $60+cheaper than the XT. Even looks better than the Matrox I upgraded from! ;-)
KristopherKubicki - Saturday, November 29, 2003 - link
Ben,I was originally misinformed as far as performance goes but I talked to Derek and Anand about it, and updated the article.
When I said I didnt consider it a steller card, I was more talking along the lines of XFX as opposed to the GPU.
Sorry for the confusion!
Cheers,
Kristopher
BenSkywalker - Thursday, November 27, 2003 - link
"I wouldnt exactly consider it a stellar card, i think the 5700 Ultra actually outperforms it. :)"? The 5900 Non Ultra kills the 5700Ultra, they aren't in the same class. Take the scores of a 5900Ultra and knock off 10% and you have a 5900NU, if you factor in OCing I have yet to see a 5900NU that doesn't exceed 5900Ultra speeds. Even the 5900SE with the 2.8ns RAM bests the 5700Ultra at all settings all of the time, and the XFX board is one of the 2.2ns parts. In a lot of cases, the XFX 5900NU is close to twice the speed of the 5700Ultra. I'm not sure where you got the impression that the 5900NU was comparable to the mid level 9600/5700 class parts, but it most certainly isn't.
KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - link
Valir,Will do :) Ill have it added as soon as possible.
Kristopher
vailr - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - link
Please include TwinMos DDR PC3700 & PC4000 memory, for comparison. Can be found: http://www.showtimecomputer.com/cpumem/ddr.aspor
http://www.memoryx.net/twinmos.html
KristopherKubicki - Monday, November 24, 2003 - link
Or you could have just asked me to add it instead of throwing accusations here and there?I added it. I wouldnt exactly consider it a stellar card, i think the 5700 Ultra actually outperforms it. :)
Cheers,
Kristopher
quikah - Monday, November 24, 2003 - link
opps, messed up that post. :)The XFX 5900 is $199 at Newegg. Seems odd that this card is not included in the list. Does it undercut some sponsors?