Memory

Recommendation: 2 X 256MB OCZ PC3200 EL (Enhanced Latency) CAS2.0
Price: $114 shipped



We've talked about OCZ's troubled past and history in detail before, but thankfully, those issues have been resolved and OCZ is able to bring great memory to market, and has been doing so for over a year now. With that said, OCZ has had tremendous success with their EL series of modules for a reason: great price/performance ratio. At only slightly more than the modules that we recommended a few months before, you get lower CAS timings (CAS 2-2-3-6 1T) with OCZ EL modules instead of high CAS timings (CAS 3-3-3 4T) with the cheaper no-name modules. Lower CAS timings along with the EL series' overclocking capability translates into better performance for a great price. If you can still find the PC3500 EL modules, you can run them at DDR433. Of course, you can do that with the PC3200 EL modules as well.

We should also mention that you don't have to get a pair of 256MB modules if you think you'll be making big memory upgrades in the future. That is, you can opt for a 512MB OCZ PC3200 EL stick in order to save an additional DIMM slot for future memory expansion. And don't worry about a price hike; the cost difference between two 256MB OCZ PC3200 EL modules and a 512MB OCZ PC3200 EL module is virtually nothing.

Alternative: 2 X 512MB OCZ PC3200 EL Dual Channel Platinum
Price: $246 shipped



For our alternative pick, we've decided to recommend more memory this time around. We feel that additional memory (in this case, an extra 512MB) can be quite useful as systems get more powerful. Lower latency modules have never been a huge difference maker in comparison to additional main memory for systems that require such powerful resources. As your system ages and as you use applications that require more resources, your need for memory will go up. This is why we choose to list 1GB of memory as our alternative today. The dual channel certified capability for these modules is an added bonus if you decide to migrate to a Socket 939 platform, which is relatively easy even now. Though to be fair, you could just as easily migrate with 256MB modules.

Video

Recommendation: 128MB Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro, DVI, TV-out
Price: $131 shipped



Ever since the release of the ATI R300 cores and their later iterations, ATI has either led or has had a clear lead over NVIDIA in terms of performance and price. The same is still true of ATI at the moment, 24 months since the release and availability of R300 core video cards. That's why, today, we highly recommend purchasing a 9600 Pro for your mid-range system, as it offers great DX8 and good DX9 performance for the price. To put it simply, the 9600 Pro is still the best bang-for-the-buck video card on the market. Sapphire makes a great 9600 Pro for just $131 or so shipped; the additions of DVI and TV-out for this price are unique, and overall, a great deal. 2D IQ quality is excellent, up to 1600x1200 desktop resolutions with the right monitor, essentially on par with retail ATI versions of the 9600 Pro. As previously mentioned, 3D performance is excellent in DX8 games and good in DX9 games, and 128MB of memory will be plenty until more intense DX9 games are released later this year and next year. If you plan on being a heavy Doom 3 gamer, however, you definitely do not want to be purchasing this card, and should instead be looking at NVIDIA's GeForce6 offerings at higher price levels. Anyway, we can also attest to the fact that 9600 Pro cards have been known to overclock extremely well, and usually come with 3.3ns Samsung memory chips.

Of course, if you're not a gamer or don't plan on playing games more than once a year, or ever, a 9600 Pro would be a pointless purchase. We would instead suggest the ATI Radeon 9200SE, 9200, 9600SE, 9550, or 9550SE, all of which can be found for under $90 shipped online (the 9200 and 9200SE for about half that). These lower end cards provide excellent 2D quality that non-gamers need, along with reliable drivers, great online ATI customer support, and up to DX9 support (in addition to excellent DX8 performance) for future Microsoft operating systems. You could always opt for the cheapest of cheap ATI cards in the Radeon 7000, but you won't be getting DX8 support, which should be the bare minimum for computer systems that plan to be used beyond the next 18-24 months, when XP64 will necessitate DX8 of some form for smooth operation.

Alternative: 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, DVI, TV-out
Price: $199 shipped



ATI's 9800 Pro has been rapidly declining in price for the last several months, and over the last two months has stabilized around the $200 mark. Even with the introduction of ATI's next generation X800 GPU, we don't see the 9800 Pro dropping more than a few more dollars in retail from where it stands now for the foreseeable future. ATI's X800 GPU and the 9800 Pro's lower price are precisely why we believe that the 9800 Pro is a perfect alternative to the 9600 Pro (or even 9700 Pro) for your mid-range system. It offers good performance for tomorrow's games and great performance for the vast majority of today's games. The 128MB memory chips at their rated 3.3ns is standard these days and should fit the needs of a mid-range user. Thankfully, 2D IQ is still superb with high end retail ATI video cards like the 9800 Pro, so non-gamers have nothing to worry about in that department.

Listed below is part of our RealTime pricing engine, which lists the lowest prices available on ATI video cards from many different reputable vendors:



If you cannot find the lowest prices on the products that we've recommended on this page, it's because we don't list some of them in our RealTime pricing engine. Until we do, we suggest that you do an independent search online at the various vendors' web sites. Just pick and choose where you want to buy your products by looking for a vendor located under the "Vendor" heading.

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  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    The 2510 is junk for dual layer burning. I think quality has gone up a bit in the last 4 months, but when it first came out it burned coaster after coaster.

    But then again, same for the QSI/Nutech stuff.

    Kristopher
  • ceefka - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    BTW, I like these guides. They have proven to be helpful in understanding what vendors are offering.

    Most vendors keep their total set price low with crappy mobo's, slow and/or <512MB RAM, el cheapo AGP-cards etc. Very different from what happens here.

    I've been reading these guides and comparing them with fixed offerings. I know now I will build my own machine. 2 years ago I knew next to nothing of PC's and I would have bought a Dell blindfolded... Thank you AT!
  • Booty - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    I was happy to see the Antec case recommended in this article. I think it's a much better case than some of the ones you've been recommending in the low-end and mid-range guides.
  • ceefka - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    So let's say

    1. I'll replace the DVD-burner with the NEC 2510 2. put in 2x512MB of RAM
    3. stick to my old Dell 17" CRT monitor that can easily handle 1248 x 1028
    4. stick to the rest of the summary. Would I be happy with a system like this editing my Mini DV tapes?

    I especially wonder if someone would recommend another graphics card. I liked the connectivity of the Asus V9520 Home Theater, Geforce FX 5200, 128Mb,TV because it featured S-VHS in. That way I could also commit things from VHS-tapes to DVD. There is also de Studio 9 DV/AV from Pinnacle that you could add on later, but of course that will cost you extra.
  • Illissius - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    I agree with most picks, but would have put the 9800 Pro as the default video card and perhaps a 6800 non Ultra as the alternative. An A64 3000+ coupled with a lowly 9600 Pro is among the more unbalanced gaming systems I've seen.
  • RobertMcDonald - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    What about the nVidia 5900XT? Its predecessor (the 5900SE) did remarkably well for bang-for-the-buck back on the Q4 2003 graphics roundup. It's a bit more expensive than the 9600 Pro, but I believe the performance difference justifies it. Granted, it can't keep up with the *really* high-end cards, but in the mid-range, its bang-for-the-buck seems hard to beat.
  • CeilingHoles - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    I agree with paxnot. Many people, including myself, have bought the NuTech DVD burner because of your recommendation. So far, all I've had is problems with this drive, and I'm not the only one.. The NEC 2150A is clearly the superior drive for the price range.
  • paxnot - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    I generally believe that AT does a great job at putting forth excellent recommendation, but there is one recommendation in this article that is simply ridiculuos. I am talking about recommendation of the NuTech DDW-082 burner. This burner has been recommended month on month in this guide. But quite honestly, it's a piece of crap. I purchase this drive based mainly on AT's recommendation and I have regretted it ever since. I have tried several different media with this drive and the performance is still awful. If I burn movies faster than 1x, the movies come out with pixelated scenes. Further, the drive has abysmal read speeds. My year old vanilla-flavored dvd consistently outperforms the Nutech drive by a 20-50 margin. I believe that the NEC ND-2510A burner is superior to the NuTEch burner. Not only does it support Dual Layer media, but it has better media support. NuTech is a second rate company. It's website support is awful and limited. Furthermore, AT's recommendation rest on a $6 dollar price differential. 6 bucks!. You lose DL support, (yes, dl media is rare) but for 6 lousy bucks you get a resonable future proof drive from a trusted company. Shame on AT for recommending this inferior burner.
  • thebluesgnr - Monday, August 23, 2004 - link

    Nice article Evan - well done. I really enjoyed this one.

    I have one small comment though (of course ;)

    "We should also mention that you don't have to get two pairs of 256MB modules if you think you'll be making big memory upgrades in the future. That is, you can opt for a 512MB OCZ PC3200 EL stick in order to save an additional DIMM slot for future memory expansion. "

    It should be made clear that this comment is specific to the main mobo/cpu pick (Athlon 64), and if you go with the alternative (Pentium 4) two sticks is highly recommended.

    There's also a small typo there - it says "two pairs" instead of one.

    Thanks,

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