PERFORMANCE Doom 3: Video and Audio
Video
Recommendation: Gigabyte GV-N68U256D 256MB GeForce 6800 UltraPrice: $538 shipped
It is some 2 to 3 months since the new top-end video cards were introduced by both nVidia and ATI. At this point in time, the dust should have settled and you should be able to easily find the video card that your heart desires. Unfortunately, this is the summer of discontent so far, and finding an nVidia 6800 Ultra or ATI X800 XT that you can actually buy is still a challenging task. It is possible to buy one of these wonder cards; they are just much more difficult to find one than they need to be. Now that Doom 3 gives you a solid reason to buy an uber 6800, the cards will hopefully become easier to find.
The new generation of video cards from nVidia and ATI are twice as fast as the previous generation in many benchmarks. Looking at games in general, we would be hard pressed to choose between the ATI X800 XT or the nVidia 6800 Ultra, but this is a Doom 3 guide, and in Doom 3, we found that nVidia is king. ATI rushed out some 4.9 Catalyst drivers, which do improve X800 XT performance, but the king of Doom 3 is definitely the nVidia 6800 family.
Derek found in Doom 3 Graphics Deathmatch that the top of the heap is the 6800 Ultra Extreme. However, the Ultra Extreme is basically just an overclocked Ultra, and if you think that the Ultra is hard to find, you should search for an Extreme. For that reason, we are recommending an nVidia 6800 Ultra for our Performance Doom 3 system.
A few vendors are showing availability of the Gigabyte 6800 Ultra, which is why it is listed. However, at this point, there is not really much difference in the 6800 Ultra cards, so choose whatever is available. The Albatron reviewed at AnandTech a few weeks ago is shipping at a slight overclock (410MHz) to normal Ultra speed and may be worth searching for. Overall, however, you will find little to distinguish the 6800 Ultra cards until there is much better availability of 6800 Ultra cards in the market.
The 6800 Ultra features 16 pipelines, a GPU at 400MHz, and 256MB of DDR3 memory at 1.1GHz. It is a nice step up from the 12-pipe 6800 and the lower clocked 6800 GT, although either of these 2 cards are still blazing performers - and easier to find.
Sound Card
Recommendation: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (7.1) retailPrice: $83
Doom 3 fully supports 5.1 surround-sound, and 5.1 definitely enhances the Doom 3 experience. While there are quite a few sound cards on the market, many of which we prefer to Sound Blaster, there is no doubt that Sound Blaster is the audio standard for gaming.
For our Performance Doom 3 rig, the top choice for an audio card is the Audigy 2. The Audigy 2 ZS is also a good card for those who love watching Dolby Digital DVD movies, or for someone who just wants decent quality sound. This version of the Audigy 2 supports 8 channels of sound and will deliver a great listening experience in any game, especially ones that support the Audigy 2's special features, like EAX. Simply pair the Audigy 2 with the right set of speakers and you'll have the necessary tools for an exceptional listening experience. Other special Audigy 2 features include 24/96 analog playback and recording, and "add-ons" like FireWire.
The Audigy 2 ZS differs from the regular OEM Audigy 2 mainly in its support of 7.1 channels of sound instead of 6.1. The benefit of going to 7.1 isn't really all that huge, since Doom 3 is a 5.1 title. However, the Audigy 2 ZS is a retail package instead of OEM, meaning you get additional bundled features, such as games and a FireWire header.
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Wesley Fink - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link
#41 - This is a Buyers Guide for Doom 3. I doubt your friend would go out to buy a Ti200 system to play Doom 3. If $278 is too much video card for you then you could save $78 with a 9800 PRO and have half the framerate at 1024x768. Or you could save $140 by getting a 9600XT or 5700 Ultra and still get playable (over 30FPS) frame rates at lower quality at 640x480 and 800x600.Value means best performance for the buck as I see it. The two options above gave up too much perfomance for the savings in my opinion, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Perhaps I should have added a 4th Category called CHEAP Doom 3 System - if it can boot the game it is A-OK by me :-)
brian_riendeau - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link
$1000 value system? I thought I went to AnandTech, not Dell.com.Not everyone needs a $300 video card to be happy. You are WAY to caught up in "...another $100 you can get 40% more performance". Do you actually need that 40% more to enjoy the game? No. The game runs fine on cards much slower than a 6800. I have a friend who plays the game on a GF3 Ti200. I am not sure what his settings are, but the game runs fine for him. Maybe the difference is that he actually spends his time playing the game, not staring at textures on the walls and looking for 10 more frames per second to help kill those zombies.
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brian_riendeau - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link
$1000 value system? I thought I went to AnandTech, not Dell.com.Not everyone needs a $300 video card to be happy. You are WAY to caught up in "well another $100 you can get 40% more performance". Do you actually need that 40% more to enjoy the game? No. The game runs fine on card must slower than a 6800. I have a friend who plays the game on a Ti200. I am not sure what his settings are, but the game runs fine for him. Maybe the difference is that he actually spends his time playing the games, now staring at textures on the walls and looking for 10% more frames.
Zebo - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link
I always thought "value" was the highest point in the price to performance curve.If the Fx-53 were 8X faster than the A64 2800+ it would constitute a value as well. But since it's only about 30% faster for 700% more money it's a horrendous value.
This is why a lot of builders above are correct in recommending the 9800pro instead of the generic 6800. In fact, either the more expensive 6800 GT or the 9800pro repersent the best "value" of all video cards out right now since thier price to performance curve is the highest.
Anyway I agree with you guys, get the 9800 then a real nice monitor, which will make a huge diff:
9800pro OC $190
A64 2800 OC to 2.4 $140
ChainTech $70
Cheapest branded 512 cas 2.5 $75
NEC diamondtron DP930SB-BK 19" $280
Antec case Slk3700w 350W $65
Sony combo drive $40
Samsung 80 giger $63
Logitech Z640 5.1 $55
=980
link130 - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
reply to #32 Wesley Finkyou forget that we are talking about "Value PC" which is synonymous with "Buget PC" I also said you can upgrade the 9800pro to a 6800 with $80. with a 6800 the difference btw a 2800+ A64 and a 2.4ghz barton are very small if you refer to the charts on this site.
Murst - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
The review seems to make some good reccomendations... except I really cannot see why you would reccomend a 3400+ over a 3500+ when the difference in price is 75$ and the socket 939 has a future. I suppose if its ONLY to play Doom3....mickey - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
What I would really like to see in future articles especially based on a single game (no doubt the same will be done for hl2) is benchmarks of the corresponding systems so that we can make a decision as to whether or not going for a better system is worth the extra $$$$Wesley Fink - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
Yes, it is a bit freaky, pliers. I would also personally choose the 2800+ at just $27 more for twice the cache and 64-bit architecture. The 2800+ is also a decent overclocker.pliers - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
freaky that twice now youre like a few mins a head of me.pliers - Sunday, August 8, 2004 - link
So now your price is around $782. It a nice system but I would still lean more towards the anandtech system with the 2800+ a64 cpu which totals $1025. If you look at the two systems for $240 more youre getting a geforce 6800, a 19" monitor, and a 64bit processor. Thats insane for $240 more.