Buyer's Guide: High End System - July 2004
by Wesley Fink on June 30, 2004 12:00 PM EST- Posted in
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Sound Card
Recommendation: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (7.1) retailPrice: $83
If you're a big gamer, then the top choice for a video card is the Audigy 2. The Audigy 2 ZS is also a good card for those who love watching Dolby Digital DVD movies, or for someone who just wants decent quality sound. This version of the Audigy 2 supports 8 channels of sound and will deliver a great listening experience in any game, especially ones that support the Audigy 2's special features, like EAX. Simply pair the Audigy 2 with the right set of speakers and you'll have the necessary tools for an exceptional listening experience. Other special Audigy 2 features include 24/96 analog playback and recording, and "add-ons" like FireWire.
The Audigy 2 ZS differs from the regular OEM Audigy 2 mainly in its support of 7.1 channels of sound instead of 6.1. The benefit of going to 7.1 isn't really all that huge, as there's a point that you reach where continually adding more channels yields diminishing returns; that is, your surround sound experience doesn't get a whole lot better going from 6.1 to 7.1 channels, or for that matter, 5.1 to 7.1 channels, depending on how sensitive your ears are. The Audigy 2 ZS is also a retail package instead of OEM, meaning you get additional bundled features, such as video games and a FireWire header.
Alternative: M-Audio Revolution 7.1
Price: $89
While the Audigy 2 series may not be the best performing audio cards that you can buy, it is hard to argue with their universal compatibility as the standard for sound in computer gaming. However, some tastes run more to sound quality than gaming on the PC and we would recommend the M-Audio Revolution 7.1 for those buyers.
At about the same price as a retail Audigy 2 ZS, the M-Audio brings you the superb Envy 24HT chipset. This is the same family chipset that powers other well-regarded audio cards like the more expensive Terratec, and this is the full-blown 24/192 version. With a S/N ratio of more than 107db, and 24-bit/192kHz payback on all channels, the Revolution 7.1 is a card that will compare well to the best from anyone. The IO capabilities are also stellar, with both 7.1 speaker outputs and coaxial SPDIF. Even the microphone and analog inputs have a very respectable recording specification of 24-bit/96 kHz, and the Analog to Digital S/N, which most cards won't even quote, is a silent 100db.
If your audio goals are even more ambitious in a high end system, M-Audio specializes in cards to satisfy a home studio user. Recommended cards included the M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 with pro-grade A/D converters and a 4-in/4-out gold-plated IO cable for about $150, and the whole Delta line with expanded inputs and outputs up to 10 in and 10 out - and still under $300.
As we've said before, there are, inevitably, going to be people who don't need this kind of audio processing power. For those users, we simply suggest that you use your motherboard's onboard sound controller. On-board audio solutions are becoming increasingly capable, with recent on-board chips capable of 7.1 audio and high-definition audio. Some people could care less about their system's sound as long as it supports their applications and there isn't any interference or crackling. If that description fits you to a tee, then use the onboard sound controller and forget about adding an audio card.
Speakers
Recommendation: Klipsch Pro Media Ultra 5.1 speakersPrice: $349 shipped
There will probably be some flak with recommending 5.1 speakers with a 7.1 audio card. If you are looking for 7.1 speakers, then neither our recommended speakers or our alternate recommendation will provide that feature. However, our recommended audio cards will do a wonderful job in powering either of our recommended speaker systems. The Klipsch Pro Media Ultra 5.1 speakers are recommended for one simple reason - they sound better than any other speakers that we have listened to on a computer. When we find 7.1 speakers that sound just as good, they will get our recommendation.
Some computer components become almost legendary, and if you will check out any Forum discussions of speakers, you will find the Klipsch mentioned with reverence. Klipsch is a well-known audiophile speaker manufacturer, but that does not always translate into great performance with powered speakers. The Pro Media 5.1 system works very well, and typically Klipsch, they even quote honest Total Harmonic Distortion in their specifications. Those accustomed to reading specs from a typical set of Asian speakers will not be impressed with 25-20000 +/- 5db for frequency response, or THD specifications of "per Satellite: 60watts/ channel@=‹1% THD,100Hz - 1,000Hz; Subwoofer: 170watts@=‹3% THD, 40Hz - 100Hz". However, audio enthusiasts will likely find the honest ratings and superb sound a refreshing change from the usual hype that goes with computer speakers. The Klipsch also includes a remote control for the speaker system "power box".
Alternative: Creative Labs Megaworks THX Certified 6.1 speakers
Price: $248 shipped
This speaker system provides 6.1 output and is an excellent value at a delivered price of $248. The sound is quite outstanding, but not quite the equal of the more expensive Klipsch Pro Media, in our opinion. If you do decide to buy the Creative Megaworks, however, you will not be disappointed, with features and specifications of:
- 6.1 surround sound
- 99 dB signal to noise ratio
- 150W subwoofer
- 70W per satellite and 75W for the center
- Positional audio support.
If you absolutely have to have 7.1 support, then the Creative Gigaworks 7.1 speakers at about $420 (delivered) is available. We haven't auditioned the Gigaworks yet, but it will have to provide something that we not seen in other 7.1 systems in order to beat the pure performance of the Klipsch Pro Media, which even costs less. No one would believe there are speakers more expensive than Klipsch, but in this case, there really are more expensive computer speaker systems.
If you cannot find the lowest prices on the products that we've recommended on this page, it's because we don't list some of them in our RealTime pricing engine. Until we do, we suggest that you do an independent search online at the various vendors' web sites. Just pick and choose where you want to buy your products by looking for a vendor located under the "Vendor" heading.
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Burbot - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
I wonder what do authors think about recommending good headphones as an alternate for those who do not want or like speakers? Grado SR125 will fit good enough here, wouldn't it?Neekotin - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
hey guys, is the Nu-tech drive capable of Dual layer writing? the NEC drive with a firmware upgrade would seem to be a better choice. although i can barely find some DL media. i also agree with #11 another combo drive would be nice, but that would just be splitting hairs. overall i agree with the guide. great job wes!Zebo - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Perfect! I would change nothing. :)deathwalker - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Certainly a very impressive assembly of parts, although I am surprised at the recommendation of parts that are largely not available. I find the selection of the NU-082 very dissapointing. I bought this burner based on a review/recommendation on AnandTech. I have been nothing short of dissapointed with this product..mostly is poor Media compatibility. Bottom line though this system will be a screamer.Sahrin - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Great article, just one comment. I'd like to echo the concerns already expressed re: the choice of a 6800U. When nVidia's own website is seeking PRE-orders for the card, I doubt it is feasible to recommend it for a system when the better performing-for-same-price X800XT is available right now (granted in limited quanities-you can make the argument that it hasn't been truly released, but there are gamers who bought X800XT's that have them-the same can't be said for any GF6 based card). Other than that, though...rock on.bigtoe33 - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Only issue i found for me was the creative sound card.While i know they have awesome features etc i know from being a system builder they also cause a lot of issues usually hogging the pci bus etc.For me there are lots of other awesome cards either based on VIA chipsets or Crystal chipsets that are as good with less hogging issues and usually a little cheaper.The other sound card choice for hone recording was fine infact pretty awesome and a card i will be looking to buy.
Thanks for the awesome article.
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
#1 - You make a very good point, as I wouldn't personally have a system without 2 opticals for copying, and I also use a high-speed CD writer for Digital Audio Extraction. Perhaps one of the better combo DVD-CDRW drives could be the 2nd drive to combine with the top DVD burner. We'll take a look at this in our next High-End Guide.rjm55 - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
#6 - While I don't have problems with the recommends in the article, I do agree a high-end system probably deserves an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 or a Terratec.Also, who is doing audio reviews at AnandTech? I don't recall seeing any in a long time, though it looks like Wesley knows something about audio.
SDwolverine - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Just built very similar system - slight differences: Asus A8V Deluxe (with luckily a working PCI/AGP lock - thanks for the couple of emails Wesley!) & Athlon 64 3500+, OCZ 3500EB (had Corsair 3200XL but could not get to work), 74Gb Raptor, currently using a 9800 Pro, but have the X800 XT ordered ($434@Gateway 3 weeks ago, blah...good price though). Some benchmarks with the 9800 Pro are:3DMark01: 22,000
3DMark03: 6,100
Sandra Buffered: ~6250/~6150 (running memory 2.5-3-2-8 @ 448)
Have not maxed out any overclocking yet, but I believe I don't really need to, especially with the X800 XT coming.
Also, got the Samsung 193P (I'm used to LCDs, so any minor ghosting is not an issue), and it's unbelievable how crisp, bright, etc. it is.
I'm pretty psyched about the system, the only thing that bums me out is how fast "high end" becomes "mid-range". But I'm sure I'll be able to max out settings at 1280x1024 with AA/AF turned up for quite some time.
For workstation performance, I often work in Excel files that are 20MB+ with complex stat/modeling calcs - with older systems I get 2-3 second delays when processing sensitivities - none on this system and files pull up as fast as notepad docs. ;-)
danidentity - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - link
Great article, just wanted to point out a small typo.On the "CPU and Motherboard Alternatives" page:
"The new Intel 925X/915 chipsets and Socket 775 processors were finally launched last week. There are many exciting new features that are available with the new 925X/915 chipsets, but performance is really no faster than the current 975P chipset, especially when combined with a Northwood processor."
That should say, "...but performance is really no faster than the current 875P chipset..." not 975P.