The good thing about NVIDIA right now is at least their branding is not overly confusing.  Product lines are a lot like menus at a restaurant.  Too many choices can be a bad thing.  If you’re a gamer and insist on NVIDIA, right now you only have four choices (ATI has about 10).  NVIDIA’s new GeForce FX 5700 and 5950 cards will increase the product line, but we naturally do not know and cannot say when to expect those creatures.

At least the good news is that the GeForceFX 5900 and 5600 prices are coming down considerably.  The 5900 non-Ultra cards are priced very aggressively with the Radeon 9800 Pro series, but at least in our benchmarks the 9800 Pro still pulls ahead.   

We would like to see the 5600 Ultra come down in price to be a little more aggressive with the Radeon 9600 Pro series, but we should expect that with the advent of the two new GeForceFX cards from NVIDIA.  Unfortunately, the Radeon 9600 Pro’s are priced even cheaper than the GeForceFX 5600s, which really puts NVIDIA at a price disadvantage.

Midrange ATI GPUs and Prices Final Thoughts
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  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    #5 Maybe should read some older video card reviews... for instance the Geforce3 review. You could make the exact same arguement there. Anand stated that people who plan on upgrading should wait till fall for the ATI 8500. When it came out, it didnt perform to well because of poor drivers. Despite this, Anand still recommended that people shouldnt purchase a Geforce3 until new ATI drivers were released.

    I can guarantee that if a new NVIDIA card came out first and an ATI card was right around the corner, youd see the things like "Dont upgrade yet, with ATI's new card around the corner, theres no telling what they'll have in store for us." etc etc. But of course you wouldn't argue that.

    Your comments towards Kris (and Anand, as you did in fact mention his name) are completely illogical and very innapropriate. You dont have to throw out baseless accusations that do nothing more than insult the integrity of staff members just because you disagreed with something stated in the review.
  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    booyah! :D
  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    #5: As a proud owner of a 9800 pro, why would you call me a fanboy? To say that we dont know anything about NVIDIA's NV38 is silly, as I even posted links to the benchmarks.

    As for forum posts, feel free to link to them.

    Both of my hardware recommendations were ATI cards. I think your comments are total unsubstantiated.

    Cheers,

    Kristopher
  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    "This, of course, is assuming it doesn’t get any competition from NVIDIA."

    Was that sentence really needed? Might as well say XGI too because you dont know jack squat about what the geforce 5700, or whatever driver updates, are going to perform like.

    Kristopher is a fanboy. Its been heavily talked about on the forums. For someone reason you go out of your way to credit Nvidia. In all the ATI reviews you and Anand say WAIT TO SEE what Nvidia has to counter 6 weeks! from now.

    WTF

    I bet if ATi goes to market first with the R400 you will not recommend buying one (assuming it does great) because your waiting for Nvidia. And then CONTINUE not to recommend until Nvidia has released their product an entire year later, due to delays. JESUS

    Call me an ATI fanboy, i dont care. I am a sad owner of a geforceFX and wish i went the ATi route instead.
  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    I'm using a sapphire radeon 9700 non-pro, is there a similiar pro hack for this? I've tried the omega drivers, but its hack doesnt work and i think they just removed it because of it.
  • Anonymous User - Sunday, October 19, 2003 - link

    #1, learn how to read, its on the first page.
  • Anonymous User - Saturday, October 18, 2003 - link

    #1 Isn't that mentioned on the first page?


  • Anonymous User - Saturday, October 18, 2003 - link

    Why not mention the 9800SE->9800 hack?

    .. oh, I know why. It succeeds less often than the 9500 one and the price boost isn't worth it.

    BUT STILL

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